Covid-19 och Lufthansagruppen
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Du hade en intressant poäng gällande dröjsmålsränta. Jag har undersökt regler och paragrafer genom exempelvis Kronofogden kring när man väntar återbetalning. Nu gäller det en kryssning där vi väntat snart 2 månader utan nyheter och det handlar om några 10-tusen kronor, så inga små pengar.
Vad hänvisade du till när du riktade dina krav till LH/Swiss angående ränta?
Det var schweizarna. Det finns en anledning att Schweiz är ett rikt land data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7 Det tog tre email innan jag fick mitt krav genom. Jag sa helt enkelt att jag inte kom att sätta min fot ombord Swiss innan jag fick pengar. Inget mer.
Du får nog kontakta Magnus Örnberg han säger ” SAS har ett starkt varumärke” jag ville inte påpeka detta förut, SAS Snowflake är ett undervarumärke.
Har jobbat med varumärkesbyggande i hela mitt arbetsliv.
Nu går vi vidare och diskuterar detta inte mera.
Magnus Örnberg ny CFO för SAS - SAS
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Bankiren
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Nu är det lite off topic, men vilket bolag hade ni bokat med? Vi har fått tillbaka typ 30% från Royal Caribbean för en kryssning som vi skulle ha åkt på den 14 mars.
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Homer
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Jo det gör vi visst det
Jag påpekade att SAS består av olika bolag såsom SAS Irland, Airstar 4 A/S
och att Snowflake aldrig var något separat bolag utan ett av SAS varumärken.
Vilket namn som skall användas för Airstar 4 A/S har väl inte framgått?
Efter dagens överenskommelse mellan den tyska regeringen och Lufthansa så stiger LH aktien över 5%
Notera överenskommelsen måste godkännas av både Lufthansas aktieägare och EU
Källor: Tyska staten går in som storägare i Lufthansa - Omni Ekonomi
Notera överenskommelsen måste godkännas av både Lufthansas aktieägare och EU
Källor: Tyska staten går in som storägare i Lufthansa - Omni Ekonomi
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Homer
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Pressrelease från Lufthansa.
Lufthansa Group | Newsroom : Economic Stabilization Fund approves Lufthansa's stabilization package
Lufty nöjer sig inte med detta utan vill också att Schweiz, Österrike och Belgien ska
öppna börsen.
Från Schweiz har de redan 1.3 miljarder CHF i lånegarantier
The German Government will take a 20% shareholding in Deutsche Lufthansa
It has an option to trigger an additional purchase of 5% + 1 share, creating a block for key votes, if there is any attempt to takeover the airline during the period that Government loans are still outstanding
It can also trigger the additional purchase of 5% + 1 share in the event that the airline fails to make an interest or capital repayment on the money invested
The Government will take two seats on the supervisory board
The Government will not vote its shares at the Annual General Meeting
The Government has agreed to sell its shares by the end of 2023 if the company has repaid its investment and the share price has reached a certain threshold.
The following restrictions will be in place until the Government is fully repaid:
€300 million to acquire the shares
€5.7 billion in redeemable non-voting shares, of which €4.7 billion will carry a guaranteed 4% yield, rising in stages to 9.5% by 2027 (this does not have to be repaid, but it is clearly expensive and the airline will want to refinance it as soon as possible)
€3 billion as a three year direct loan provided by the state-run development bank KfW
The following restrictions will be in place until the Government is fully repaid:
The company cannot pay dividends
Management pay will be capped, albeit at an unspecified level
The investment will be structured as follows:
€300 million to acquire the shares
€5.7 billion in redeemable non-voting shares, of which €4.7 billion will carry a guaranteed 4% yield, rising in stages to 9.5% by 2027 (this does not have to be repaid, but it is clearly expensive and the airline will want to refinance it as soon as possible)
€3 billion as a three year direct loan provided by the state-run development bank KfW
The following restrictions will be in place until the Government is fully repaid:
The company cannot pay dividends
Management pay will be capped, albeit at an unspecified level
"Subject to approval of the European Union"
Det är inte alls garanterat att detta godkänns rakt av.
Lufthansa Group | Newsroom : Economic Stabilization Fund approves Lufthansa's stabilization package
Lufty nöjer sig inte med detta utan vill också att Schweiz, Österrike och Belgien ska
öppna börsen.
Från Schweiz har de redan 1.3 miljarder CHF i lånegarantier
The German Government will take a 20% shareholding in Deutsche Lufthansa
It has an option to trigger an additional purchase of 5% + 1 share, creating a block for key votes, if there is any attempt to takeover the airline during the period that Government loans are still outstanding
It can also trigger the additional purchase of 5% + 1 share in the event that the airline fails to make an interest or capital repayment on the money invested
The Government will take two seats on the supervisory board
The Government will not vote its shares at the Annual General Meeting
The Government has agreed to sell its shares by the end of 2023 if the company has repaid its investment and the share price has reached a certain threshold.
The following restrictions will be in place until the Government is fully repaid:
€300 million to acquire the shares
€5.7 billion in redeemable non-voting shares, of which €4.7 billion will carry a guaranteed 4% yield, rising in stages to 9.5% by 2027 (this does not have to be repaid, but it is clearly expensive and the airline will want to refinance it as soon as possible)
€3 billion as a three year direct loan provided by the state-run development bank KfW
The following restrictions will be in place until the Government is fully repaid:
The company cannot pay dividends
Management pay will be capped, albeit at an unspecified level
The investment will be structured as follows:
€300 million to acquire the shares
€5.7 billion in redeemable non-voting shares, of which €4.7 billion will carry a guaranteed 4% yield, rising in stages to 9.5% by 2027 (this does not have to be repaid, but it is clearly expensive and the airline will want to refinance it as soon as possible)
€3 billion as a three year direct loan provided by the state-run development bank KfW
The following restrictions will be in place until the Government is fully repaid:
The company cannot pay dividends
Management pay will be capped, albeit at an unspecified level
"Subject to approval of the European Union"
Det är inte alls garanterat att detta godkänns rakt av.
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Homer
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Jasså, Lufthansa överväger inte alls något konkursförfarande, det var därför jag startade en ny tråd i stället för att skriva mer i tråd med idiotisk rubrik.
Jasså, Lufthansa överväger inte alls något konkursförfarande, det var därför jag startade en ny tråd i stället för att skriva mer i tråd med idiotisk rubrik.
Fick mail precis:
Changes to the frequent flyer programme are to be postponed
Dear Mr
The spread of coronavirus has posed new challenges for us all. As a member of our frequent flyer programme, you are one of our loyal passengers, which is why we aim to continue offering you an attractive and transparent programme.
Due to the effects of the coronavirus crisis, we have decided to postpone the changes to the frequent flyer programme by one year. This means that the current regulations will continue to apply until 31 December 2021 and that the new system will then begin on 1 January 2022 – and not, as communicated in November, in 2021. You will find further information at miles-and-more.com/frequent-flyer.
Stay healthy.
Yours sincerely,
Your Miles & More Team
Changes to the frequent flyer programme are to be postponed
Dear Mr
The spread of coronavirus has posed new challenges for us all. As a member of our frequent flyer programme, you are one of our loyal passengers, which is why we aim to continue offering you an attractive and transparent programme.
Due to the effects of the coronavirus crisis, we have decided to postpone the changes to the frequent flyer programme by one year. This means that the current regulations will continue to apply until 31 December 2021 and that the new system will then begin on 1 January 2022 – and not, as communicated in November, in 2021. You will find further information at miles-and-more.com/frequent-flyer.
Stay healthy.
Yours sincerely,
Your Miles & More Team
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Homer
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Hursomhelst så sa styrelsen nej, anledningen var de motkrav EU-kommissionen ställt för ett godkännande
Lufthansa board rejects EU conditions on $10 billion bailout - Reuters
Lufthansa board rejects EU conditions on $10 billion bailout - Reuters
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Måste säga att jag tycker Lufthansa hanterar detta jäkligt bra, man fick reda på förändringen över 1 år i förväg, och nu får vi reda på att det blir en förskjutning på 1 år mer än 7 månader innan. Fler flygbolag borde ta detta som ett praktexempel på hur man ska hantera det.
Min enda datapunkt är att det är motsvarande som sas. Skulle resa i påsk, inställd ~2v innan. Tröttnade och gjorde Amex charge back för några veckor sedan, vilket inte var något problem.
Edit: fick email från Lufthansa om "du vet väl att du kan få voucher med 50eur bonus för din inställda resa". Detta email fick jag efter charge back var hanterad.